{"id":515,"date":"2016-11-05T13:56:19","date_gmt":"2016-11-05T13:56:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/new.thealternativeways.com\/?p=515"},"modified":"2017-05-02T08:22:04","modified_gmt":"2017-05-02T08:22:04","slug":"the-secret-to-travel-is-in-the-mind-not-the-location-inverview-with-mikael-themier","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/the-secret-to-travel-is-in-the-mind-not-the-location-inverview-with-mikael-themier\/","title":{"rendered":"The Secret to Travel is in the Mind, not the Location"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><b>The Secret to Travel is in the Mind, not the Location<\/b><\/h1>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Interview with Mika\u00ebl Themier &#8211; Co-Founder of &#8216;Portraits of Montreal&#8217;<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><iframe width=\"1080\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7U8MHX-36-E?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Mika\u00ebl Themier speaking at TEDx Concordia.<\/p>\n<h4><\/h4>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Portraits of Montreal\u2019 is the Canadian version of &#8216;Humans of New York&#8217;, and has received immense praise over the past few years. The initiative has been featured on most of the major publications in Quebec including MTL Blog, La Presse, and Le Journal de Montr\u00e9al. It was founded by Thibault Carron and Mika\u00ebl Themier, with the objective\u00a0to create a\u00a0refreshing\u00a0and inspiring project in their city.<\/span><\/h4>\n<h4><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Through his work, Mika\u00ebl travels the world without ever leaving his city, and today I wanted feature an interview to learn about how he started his initiatives, what he learned from it, and how he has traveled the world without ever leaving his city.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_520\" style=\"width: 1290px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-520\" class=\"wp-image-520 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/tumblr_oe4e2pKy6e1tx3bmto1_1280.jpg\" alt=\"portraits of montreal\" width=\"1280\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/tumblr_oe4e2pKy6e1tx3bmto1_1280.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/tumblr_oe4e2pKy6e1tx3bmto1_1280-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/tumblr_oe4e2pKy6e1tx3bmto1_1280-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/tumblr_oe4e2pKy6e1tx3bmto1_1280-1024x682.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-520\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Portraits of Montreal Picture<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h1><b>Interview with Mika\u00ebl Themier<\/b><\/h1>\n<h3>To begin, can you tell us a bit about yourself.<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019m 29 years old based out of Montreal. After growing up in a privileged neighborhood in Paris, I decided to leave this city to go study and work in marketing in Montreal. Growing up I was always curious and very open minded, so I felt different from everyone else that surrounded me. This is why I decided to leave that bubble and come to Montreal. <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I started on the regular path, found a job in advertising, and worked there for about 2 years. The entire time I would get these really creative and awesome ideas, but never had the time to bring them to life! So I would write them down on a piece of paper. I felt locked in. One day, as I was writing down an idea on a piece of paper, I decided enough was enough, and quit my job.<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I immediately went out to buy a camera, and started taking pictures of people and moments. This was the beginning of Portraits of Montreal. Over the past year I was following humans of new york, and felt that there needed to be something similar in a city like Montreal. <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h4>\u2018Sometimes I feel like everyone around me is on a train to build their life, to get that car and that house and those gadgets. And I am on the station\u2019s platform, just watching this train wiz by. I constantly have to remind myself that it\u2019s ok not to be on the train, because it\u2019s destination is not where I want to go.\u2019 &#8211; Mika\u00ebl Themier<\/h4>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>Two years ago, you decided to leave everything behind and start \u00b4Portraits of Montreal\u2019. Would you say Humans of New York was the main inspiration for that?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes in the beginning thats where the idea originated from. But what really got the idea going was this same feeling &#8211; or energy maybe &#8211; of not belonging, of not feeling fulfilled. So I went for it\u00a0and every single day I would go out and take pictures of people on the streets. <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>In your TEDx Concordia talk you mention you met many people from all religions and cultural backgrounds. Did any of your meetings make you feel like you were traveling the world in your own city?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Just last week, I went to Parc Extension and went there specifically to meet Sikhs from the community. Four of them were sitting on a bench, so I asked to take a picture and they offered me to join them on their small bench. All 5 of us stayed seated and began talking about all types of things. For the next hour, I was in India.<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This actually makes me think about something I want to show you. (Mika\u00ebl leaves and picks up a book). Here is another great representation about how you can travel in your own city. This is \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/aimecommemontreal\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Aime Comme Montreal<\/a>\u2019 which is 60 pictures of intercultural couples right here in Montreal.<\/span><\/h3>\n<div id=\"attachment_516\" style=\"width: 970px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-516\" class=\"wp-image-516\" src=\"https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/aime-comme-montreal.jpg\" alt=\"aime comme montreal\" width=\"960\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/aime-comme-montreal.jpg 960w, https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/aime-comme-montreal-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/aime-comme-montreal-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-516\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aime Comme Montr\u00e9al Initiative<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Are there any major themes that keep coming back as you continue your journey?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Im kind of biased because I mostly focus on underprivileged communities. First because of curiosity. Second because of the unfairness. So something that comes out more often than I expected when I speak to these communities is violence in the family. That was really surprising. I\u2019d even say it&#8217;s the terrible surprise of Portraits of Montreal. But it&#8217;s not all bad, on the contrary most stories I hear are surprising in very positive ways as well.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>You met 100s of interesting people, can you share with us one of the most surprising or eye opening encounters you ever experienced? What did you learn from them?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Every time someone asks me this question I have a difference response. I\u2019d say it&#8217;s the person I met yesterday. He had this crazy tattoo around his eye that looks like a pirate patch. He honestly looked scary, with the piercings and black tattoo sleeve going all the way to the fingertips. I expected him to be rough around the edges, but it was actually the exact opposite. He had this warm happy excited energy. As a 36 year old man, he was going back to school to become an engineer. His dream was to get a house with a tree. The tree was most important as it was a symbol of stability. His entire life he had never lived in the same place for more than a few years, and never had the same friends for more than 5 years. Even in his family things weren\u2019t stable, so that tree was his dream. A dream of living a stable life, and the tree remaining long after he was gone.<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>So I guess you could say this was another proof that you shouldn\u2019t judge a book by its cover?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes, and even more than that, I\u2019d say it\u2019s about breaking down the prejudice. No more prejudice about religion, about ideals, about race\u2026 Let\u2019s just break it all down.<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>If I understood correctly, we could say the idea of the Portraits of Montreal is to help everyone see the humanity in people, rather than seeing them as strangers? To build empathy?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I guess empathy is really the key word here. We want to make people as concerned about others as they are about themselves.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2>I guess empathy is really the key word here. &#8211; Mika\u00ebl Themier<\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>I saw that you started a crowdfunding campaign to help someone you met get off the street. Is this something you do often?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Not as often as I would like! What we did with David we haven\u2019t been able to do again at that level. However we do have small wins here and there. In the end of 2015, I met Normand, who really needed a job and was actually craving to work. He didn\u2019t know how to read or write, and people didn\u2019t think he looked trustworthy to give him work. He was a handyman so we put an ad on Portraits of Montreal. More than 10 people responded with renovation jobs, which got him working again and finding new clients through that. That felt really great.<\/span><\/h3>\n<div id=\"attachment_517\" style=\"width: 1290px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-517\" class=\"wp-image-517 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/normand.jpg\" alt=\"normand\" width=\"1280\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/normand.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/normand-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/normand-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thealternativeways.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/normand-1024x682.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-517\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Normand<\/p><\/div>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Another subject I am more and more passionate about is the lack of services for handicapped people in the public transportation sector. Right now its a horrible situation. More than half the buses aren\u2019t accessible, and same goes for the metro stations. So if you can\u2019t get to where you need to get, you have to call STM 24hr in advance and often\u00a0it will be up to 30 minutes late. People don\u2019t seem to care about the handicapped. So I did a rant on Facebook about how I was stuck for hours with my handicapped friend I met through Portraits of Montreal. It was picked up by Journal de Montreal, and just yesterday the director of the services department got in contact with me to apologize and promise it won\u2019t happen again to my friend. I&#8217;d say there\u2019s still a lot of work to do.<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>You now have 10s of thousands of followers, are there any tips you would give to people who are interested in doing something similar?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Just get out there and do it!! It\u2019s kind of difficult for me to give advice on this because I come from a privileged background so it\u2019s not the same for those who don\u2019t have support.<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>I guess we could you say you have a safety net.<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Exactly, not anybody has that privilege or luxury but everyone can start with small steps. Even those with money often times don\u2019t step out of their comfort zone and follow their passion. For example I have a friend who rather than quitting the job he hated so much, he insisted on staying to \u201cbuild his career\u201d. He finally made the jump, and became very happy almost immediately! <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">People are afraid of the jump. But honestly the jump is so easy. I felt so good when I finally did it. I felt like a world of opportunity had just opened up. You just have to do it!! And if you can\u2019t because of your life situation, then at least make small steps towards your goal. Work nights and weekend. If you put the effort it will grow.<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One thing is for sure, you also have to work hard. There\u2019s no secret, just a lot of hard work. Since quitting, I\u2019d say I have worked every single day. But I love it, so it\u2019s not really work. I can\u2019t really explain it; I work all the time, but I also am always on vacation.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>You seem like a really motivated guy. What are some of your main projects for 2017?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We are working on the Portraits of Montreal book which will come out in spring. But other than that no plans really. I think that I always like to keep the doors open for new opportunities, so I usually don\u2019t like to plan too far in advance! <\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>To finish off this interview, I wanted to ask you, do you believe that your perception of Montreal has drastically changed after meeting so many people and hearing their stories?<\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No not at all. I\u2019ve never been a prejudiced guy so I wouldn\u2019t say I had a specific perspective that was shattered. But what I can say is that I know Montreal much better now. And its people.<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What has really changed is my relationship with people and with society. Every thing I do now I am more conscious. For example I became vegetarian, and then vegan. My perspective on world issues also changed. My view on the refuge crisis view is very different than that of most people who only see their side of the problem in France or here in Canada. Even if they are so far away I better understand them. I feel more empathic because I understand where they are coming from and how hard it is for them.<\/span><\/h3>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On another note I\u2019d say I now feel much more confident of approaching anyone on the street. If I have a question for someone, I can honestly go up to them, start a conversation, and ask my burning question. It&#8217;s easy, because I have my camera as an ice breaker. If you want to meet people, find your own ice breaker, and you will be able to talk to anyone you want.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><i><span id=\"stop_widget\" style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Alternative Ways aims to become the #1 guide to alternative travel experiences. What\u2019s Alternative Travel? Traveling becomes alternative as soon as you leave your comfort zone and experience awesomeness. Our mission is to give you the necessary tools and inspiration to step out of this comfort zone and travel, so you may find your true way. If you enjoyed this interview we invite you to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/TheAlternativeWays\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">like our facebook page<\/a>\u00a0and subscribe to our monthly newsletter.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Secret to Travel is in the Mind, not the Location Interview with Mika\u00ebl Themier &#8211; Co-Founder of &#8216;Portraits of Montreal&#8217; &nbsp; Mika\u00ebl Themier speaking at TEDx Concordia. &nbsp; Portraits of Montreal\u2019 is the Canadian version of &#8216;Humans of New York&#8217;, and has received immense praise over the past few years. 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